Sunday, December 8, 2019

Can a woman go to Church for communion while bleeding?


Can a woman go to Church for communion while bleeding? Yes, or No, and Why?


25 minutes of contradictions.
In summary, here is what I got from this video;

1- Father Boutros Samy said; Some Coptic Churches in Egypt prohibit women from going to church, taking communion, or even going to Sunday school while bleeding during menstruation or after giving birth because they are impure as stated in the Bible. And that is wrong.
(So, the Bible tradition is Women are impure while bleeding but that's wrong?)

2- Father Boutros agrees; The Coptic Church Law States that a boy is to be baptized at the age of 40 days and a girl at 80 days because a woman stays unclean or impure for 40 days after giving birth to a boy and for 80 days after giving birth to a girl. 
(A woman is double impure after giving birth to a girl compared to giving birth to a boy?)

3- Father Boutros discussed; The Old Testament states that women are unclean and impure while bleeding during menstruation or after birth even men become unclean if they touch them. (Leviticus 12:2, 15:19-30, 18:19, 20:19, and so on.) But Jesus abolished that in the New Testament, and we don't believe in it anymore because he let the bleeding woman touch him (Mathew 9:20) (Luke 8:43-46)
(So, we believe in the Old Testament, but we don't believe or follow it anymore?)

4- Priest Boutros claimed; We believe and follow the laws of the Old Testament because it is symbolic and it contains the prophecy of the New Testament. The New Testament is a continuation of the Old Testament. Jesus followed the Law and he said, "I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" But he abolished considering women impure among many other things.
(So, Jesus did not abolish the Old Testament Law and abolished it too?)

5- Father Boutros explained the Old and The New Testaments state that women are unclean and less than men. As men have seniority over women since Adam was created before Eve, and Eve was created from Adam. (for example, in many chapters in Leviticus and in 1 Timothy 2:11-15). Father explained; Women being less is not a punishment, but it is because the first woman failed and tempted Adam into disobeying God.
(So, women being less than men is not a punishment, but it is still a punishment?) 

6- Father Boutros stated that “Women being impure or less than men” is a Jewish belief. Because the old church was established by Jews converted to Christianity, the early Church followed the Jewish Laws like circumcision and the church continues to follow them till now!
(So, Coptic Christians have been following Jewish laws for the past 2000 years?)

7- Father stated; We respect and follow the Old Testament, but we should not consider women too impure and make it easy on women. However, at the same time, we will not permit women to take communion when bleeding during their period until the church changes the laws (which have not been changed for 2000 years?).
(So, we should follow the Old Testament laws, but we shouldn’t believe in them?) 
(So, we should not follow the old laws, but we will follow them anyway, but not exactly, so we make it easy on women?)

I heard Father Daoud Lamai once claiming that the Church prohibits women or "excuse them" from attending church and communion while menstruating because the church does not want to trouble women with the burden of leaving the house when they are uncomfortable with the bleed and cramps. This is quite a falsification of all the written verses in the Bible.